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Post by Senna Rylee on Jun 21, 2008 16:13:10 GMT -5
I've noticed some questions appearing regarding word counts for duels... Now, IC duels are considering roleplaying, and thus the 75 words per post counts for these duels. Perhaps describe character actions and such? Their reactions? Make the duel a roleplay and not just a regular duel. Currently, all duel posts not following this rule will be ignored, but only those posts made before this notice. From now on, all IC dueling is considering roleplaying and should be played out as such. So all IC rules count. Thanks, and sorry for any confusion. This should be considered a rule
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Kira
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Post by Kira on Jun 21, 2008 16:18:31 GMT -5
can i dis-agree with that? Because you cant make 1 full turn in a post due to chains(ect.); so it'd be unfair... plus i myself would say "nvm dueling IC man, its too long and hard to make crap up, we can duel OOC and just use the results"
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Post by Yugi Mutou/Yami Yugi on Jun 21, 2008 16:33:38 GMT -5
I would personally suggest waiting until instituting this rule. We only have about 10 people right now and this type of rule might discourage those that don't want to type a lot from joining in the first place. I would suggest maybe doing it when we have about 20-25 members (separate ones, not doubles). But, you're the boss lady.
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Post by Senna Rylee on Jun 21, 2008 16:43:15 GMT -5
I'll talk it over with Bakura when I get the chance, then, but I hardly think 75 words is typing a lot. My belief in this remains the fact that, when dueling IC, I believe there is plenty to type regarding character's thoughts, reactions... body language... anything one would normally include in a regular rp post, just maybe toned down a bit more with focus on the actual dueling at hand.
So for the meantime, disregard this as rule but think of it as a possibility.
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Post by Yugi Mutou/Yami Yugi on Jun 21, 2008 17:47:12 GMT -5
Okay. I personally don't mind doing that now that you've mentioned it. But I'm just saying that some others (especially the ones newer to RPing) might think that a bit much. Perhaps we should have an example duel so that people know exactly what the posts should look like and how to make them that long. I don't think it's too hard.
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Post by Senna Rylee on Jun 21, 2008 17:57:59 GMT -5
Well, in the rules it states that the required word count is 75 words per post, so I really can't say anything about that. An example duel would be a good idea, though.
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Kira
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Thought is key, cards are cards its how you play.
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Post by Kira on Jun 21, 2008 19:37:16 GMT -5
yea, this is where my faverite saying comes in... "i could, i just dont want to."
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Post by Ryou [+Yami] Bakura on Jun 21, 2008 23:46:48 GMT -5
Hey, guys. xD
I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to back Senna up on this. It was the purpose of this role-play from the very start, at least the way I understood it, and the way it's been so far, to NOT have one-liners.
Personally, I consider 75 words to be a one-minute post, at most. Typing something like that takes me about as much effort as eating a cookie does, no exaggeration. So I don't see how it can be so difficult to make your post meet that requirement, whether it's a duel or not.
By lowering that limit for some excuse like "It's a duel", the site would only be filled with people who won't ever be able to meet it, or who won't ever WANT to meet it, since Kira was so kind as to put that in here. Aka, we'd all be one-lining in the end. And the purpose of this site was to not be like that, I believe.
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Post by Senna Rylee on Jun 22, 2008 0:05:21 GMT -5
Thank you Bakura. And yes, Bakura is correct. The point of this particular YuGiOh! rpg is to be for semi-literate members, though I did leave the word count at 75 words because I expected things like this to occur in regards to dueling.
If you look at the anime itself, the characters were always horribly dramatic during duels, so I believe such theatrics can be integrated into In-Character dueling posts. Describe hand movements as your character pulls out a card or something. Their expressions? Maybe even their thoughts? Just surround whatever moves you make with a bit of extra information.
As far as using OOC results IC, that can't be done. OOC is out-of-character, and using duel results from OOC dueling would be like calling someone an idiot OOC and then IC their character goes up to yours and says "Hey! You called me an idiot!" (though we know that no one is going to do that OOC, right?) However, if dueling IC no longer sounds amusing to you, then by all means feel free to just keep duels to the out-of-character boards and roleplay normally in the other boards.
I wish to try and keep this site the way it originally was, although granted, I was not aware of any dueling taking place before the revamp. However, this issue was bound to be addressed at some point. But roleplaying is roleplaying, and this site was intended to be free of one-liners.
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Raku
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Post by Raku on Jun 22, 2008 0:13:41 GMT -5
I skimmed throw the conversation so idk if I missed this part...
What About the Chains? like when someone asks another person If they chain/counter the card?
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Post by Yugi Mutou/Yami Yugi on Jun 22, 2008 1:04:48 GMT -5
Yes, Raku, you still have to have 75 words if you are asking them to chain or if you are chaining. It's not very hard.
The only place where I could see newer people getting caught is if they aren't going to chain. For example, if I use Monster Reborn and explain everything and all of that and ask if my opponent is going to chain, they have to come up with a 75 word "no". But ya, if you are more experienced at RPing and writing you'll still be able to handle those situations without problems.
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Post by Ryou [+Yami] Bakura on Jun 22, 2008 7:00:19 GMT -5
You could just describe the reaction your character is having to the cards your opponent just played, and there you have it, 75 words. xD
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Matana
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Post by Matana on Jun 23, 2008 0:10:58 GMT -5
hello all i wish to add my to cents to this dicussion. If you don't mind that is, senna.heres what i have to say. about the post limit.
when i first came here writing 75 words took forever. it took me a half an hour to make a post so i know where the new ones are coming from. not to long ago that was me struggling to make my first posts; but i didn't want to just give up or beg anyone to lower a standard for me. and i still don't though posting still takes a long time and i want thank senna for putting up with it.
if you want and i mean really want to work at it and improve you will. it'll take time and hard wiork on your part but have you ever heard of an instant fix for any thing?
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Raku
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Post by Raku on Jun 23, 2008 4:02:50 GMT -5
yeah i understand u, im not new at writing alot, but the reason why im asking cause im lazy as fudge... lol..
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Post by Shane Kay Alexander on Jun 27, 2008 11:02:05 GMT -5
*Reads through this* Now may I speak my peace?
I don't honestly see how hard it can be to type a minimum of 75 words when dueling. I mean as several people have already stated, it's not that difficult. All you have to do is describe your character, perhaps describe their thoughts and hwo they feel about the situation. I could do that in at least three paragraphs, but then again, I do realize there are people who do struggle with something like that. All you have to do is ask yourself a few small questions: What just happened? How does my character feel about this happening? Will it have a longing affect on how my character must play the game now? Will this ruin any stratgey I've set up for myself and my character?
Or make up questions of your own that you want to answer somewhere in the roleplay. It can be three or even two questions as long as you can answer them in the reply. It's not that difficult. Here's an example:
'Bob looked up, his eyes narrowing into two slits at the person across the field from himself. Though, what he found looking back at him had been a smug smile from Bill. Already, Bill was becoming cocky. After one turn, he thought he had won the duel, and of course that would soon be his downfall. As Bob had learned in the past, duels were always exciting for one fact, that there was always a new twist and turn waiting to greet the two duelists. There was no telling who would win a duel because it could go both ways.
"For now," Bob said warily as he stared down at the cards he had left in his hand, "I'll play Swords of Revealing Light!"'
Word Count: 125.
Of course, it'll be harder for some people, but it's not impossible. It shouldn't take so long to do it
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